John Barnes has some words for Jurgen Klopp. Take a moment to recall the finale of the previous season, specifically that poignant 2-0 victory against Wolves. Now, fast-forward to the exuberant celebration in Liverpool that ensued.

Barnes is performing a rap on stage while next to him stands a man amusing the crowd with a bit of ‘dad-dancing’. All limbs flailing, a wide smile plastered across his face, and sporting a cap turned backwards – who else could it be but Klopp?

‘He came and stole my spotlight!’ Barnes shares with Mail Sport. ‘I’m up there entertaining everyone, and he just had to jump in and start dancing.’

‘I was rapping while he was dancing. I doubt he has any rap skills, but he can certainly dance… for a German. It wasn’t premeditated for me to rap, and he clearly wanted to flaunt what Jurgen Klopp is all about.’

‘What Jurgen has accomplished at Liverpool is remarkable. He’s so relatable, a genuine guy, so it didn’t take me by surprise. If there’s a celebration, he’s there, socializing at the pub and walking his dog on the beach. It’s evident he’s been phenomenal for Liverpool.’

John Barnes caught up with Mail Sport to talk all things Liverpool, Jurgen Klopp, and grassroots volunteering

John Barnes caught up with Mail Sport to discuss Liverpool, Jurgen Klopp, and the significance of grassroots volunteering.

The Liverpool legend surprised everyone at MSB Woolton to celebrate the importance of FA grassroots volunteers ahead of the Reds' tour of the USA

The Liverpool legend delighted everyone at MSB Woolton by highlighting the importance of FA grassroots volunteers prior to the Reds’ tour of the USA.

Barnes claims Klopp 'stole his thunder' by dancing on stage as he rapped after the final day of the season

Barnes asserts that Klopp ‘stole his thunder’ by joining him on stage to dance while he rapped after the season finale.

The Kop favourite won two league titles at Anfield and also saw a period of transition

The Kop favorite captured two league titles during his time at Anfield and witnessed a phase of transition.

Barnes is accompanying Liverpool on their pre-season trip to the United States, where Arne Slot aims to solidify his command over the team. He’s keeping busy – as we speak, Barnes has just surprised volunteers at MSB Woolton, the largest grassroots football club in the UK, boasting around 160 teams. Supporting these volunteers, who include coaches, referees, and administrators, is crucial for Barnes.

‘Grassroots football is the essence of English football and has been ever since I was a child,’ he explains. ‘This initiative is designed for the numerous kids who participate locally. Football is a family, and that’s the heart of this grassroots scheme – to assist everyone, including boys, girls, and those who may not play but wish to contribute.’

It’s clear during our conversation that Barnes’ passion for the game at every tier remains unwavering. Whether it’s supporting the vital efforts of the UK’s 867,000 football volunteers or backing Slot’s initial tour as Liverpool’s head coach, his enthusiasm is infectious.

He is well-acquainted with navigating significant transitions as well. The Merseyside club felt seismic tremors when the legendary Sir Kenny Dalglish stepped down in February 1991, shortly after clinching the title. The situation bears resemblance now.

‘We witnessed the dips that occurred when Alex Ferguson, Kenny Dalglish, and Arsene Wenger departed; when you have someone so iconic at the helm for an extended period, a decline is expected. However, I encourage the fans and players to rally behind Arne Slot.’

‘They must extend him the same respect they showed Jurgen Klopp, which entails adhering to his guidance and following his direction. I have no doubt they will, as they are all good individuals.’

‘He has achieved this position due to his commendable work at Feyenoord as an individual. It can’t be business as usual since he’s a new coach. Even if styles are similar, they are distinct, and he must forge his own identity. It’s essential that we respect and honor that. The fans need to back him; they can’t default to saying: “Jurgen would have done this.”

‘Competing in the league effectively would define a successful season. As for cup matches, it’s unpredictable. You could meet Manchester City away in the third round and lose – that’s not failing, even though winning is possible.’

Barnes has urged Liverpool fans to get behind new manager Arne Slot (pictured)

Barnes has called on Liverpool fans to support new manager Arne Slot (pictured).

Barnes is an ambassador for Liverpool and is with them on their pre-season tour of the USA

Barnes serves as an ambassador for Liverpool during their pre-season tour of the USA.

Dominik Szoboszlai scored the first goal of the Arne Slot era in a 1-0 victory over Real Betis

Dominik Szoboszlai netted the first goal of the Arne Slot era in a 1-0 triumph against Real Betis.

Barnes believes Liverpool do not need to be active in the transfer market amid a slow summer

Barnes insists Liverpool does not need to make any moves in the transfer market during this slow summer period.

‘If we perform consistently well, reaching the end of the season with a chance to win the league is an achievement. Finishing second or third, just a couple of points off the lead would also suffice… it’s about being competitive in every match.’

Slot’s debut match in Pittsburgh saw Liverpool edge out a 1-0 win over Real Betis, with Dominik Szoboszlai scoring the first goal in the Slot era against the former Liverpool goalkeeper, Adrian. However, they suffered a 1-0 defeat to Preston North End behind closed doors.

Liverpool set off for the States with 28 players but were missing 11 first-team stars, presenting a significant opportunity for youth. While Curtis Jones sustained an injury, players like Trey Nyoni shone, and Stefan Bajcetic received valuable minutes after a frustrating injury-laden season.

It was an encouraging beginning, but the Reds are currently the only Premier League team that has yet to make any signings this transfer window, raising questions about whether they are stagnating. Slot has emphasized the need to evaluate the existing squad before making any moves. Do they need additional players?

Barnes believes they do not. ‘Why do people think that the solution to a problem is simply to acquire new players? I wouldn’t select anyone. We already have a plethora of players. Last year, we brought in five new players.’

‘I’m not a proponent of the modern trend in football where the answer is always to keep signing new players. Look at Chelsea – they brought in countless players and where did it land them? That’s not the fix; we have sufficient players to remain competitive.’

Is Darwin Nunez good enough? He has netted 33 goals over the past two seasons, while Erling Haaland leads with 90.

‘He can lead us to a title without netting 40 goals. There’s no need to compare him to anyone else. What Nunez provides, Haaland cannot. Yes, Haaland scores many goals, but he doesn’t provide the same level of hard work and chase that Nunez does.’

Darwin Nunez does not need to score 40 goals per season, says Barnes - but if he scored as many as Robbie Fowler he'd be the 'best in the world'

Barnes states that Darwin Nunez doesn’t have to net 40 goals a season; if he scored as prolifically as Robbie Fowler, he’d be the ‘best in the world.’

He calls the grassroots game 'the lifeblood of English football,' with 867,000 FA volunteers

He describes grassroots football as ‘the lifeblood of English football,’ supported by 867,000 FA volunteers.

Barnes is looking forward to seeing Stefan Bajcetic back in action after an injury-hit season

Barnes is eager to see Stefan Bajcetic return to action following a season marred by injuries.

‘If he could do that while also hitting 40 goals, he’d be the very best in the world. His unique skill set, combined with contributing goals and an unwavering work ethic, makes him perfect for Liverpool. We strive for excellence – we want him to emulate what Erling Haaland achieves; however, we also desire Haaland to excel in holding up the ball more effectively.’

‘In terms of what Nunez brings to the table, yes, we’d hope for increased goal tallies. If he could replicate the scoring rate of Robbie Fowler along with everything else he does, he’d be unparalleled.’

Barnes’ ultimate five-a-side team

Bruce Grobbelaar

Alan Hansen

Virgil van Dijk

Steven Gerrard

John Barnes

Ian Rush

‘But that’s six, John!’

‘Alright, I’ll exclude myself!’

For Barnes, observing the youth team offers ample reasons to avoid splurging. Klopp has given debuts to over 40 academy players. Young talents like Conor Bradley, Ben Doak, Jayden Danns, and James McConnell have received glowing praise. Two players stand out to Barnes.

‘Quansah had an impressive season and was selected for the England squad right up to the final cuts but ultimately didn’t make the team.’

‘And Bajcetic, because that holding role is crucial for Liverpool, and we definitely felt Fabinho’s absence when he departed. The role is his to seize, but last season saw limited playtime due to injuries.’

‘Endo stepped in and performed admirably, but I strongly believe that position is meant for Bajcetic. I’m keen to observe how he handles it now that he’s fit, as it’s one of the most pivotal roles on the field, as Rodri demonstrated. It often goes unnoticed.’

There’s a moment for a whimsical query. Barnes, who has dabbled in rap, gained fame through his feature in New Order’s ‘World in Motion’ ahead of the 1990 World Cup. This summer, he released a BBQ anthem titled ‘THIS is the One’.

So, if he were to pick two current Liverpool stars to form a rap trio with, who would they be?

‘I would likely choose Luis Diaz. Being from South America, he brings a bit of that samba rhythm.’

Jarell Quansah has a big season ahead and is the main youngster Barnes is excited about

Jarell Quansah has a pivotal season ahead and is one of the young players Barnes is particularly excited about.

Barnes would form a rap trio with Luis Diaz and Joe Gomez

Barnes would form a rap trio with Luis Diaz and Joe Gomez

Barnes would select Luis Diaz and Joe Gomez to form a rap trio if given the option of Liverpool players.

Barnes got behind the mic and the grill in the summer in a new rap music video for a song called 'THIS is the One'

Barnes took center stage in a new rap video where he showcases his culinary skills alongside his mic skills for the track ‘THIS is the One.’

Then there’s a moment of reflection.

‘And I’d probably include Joe Gomez, because he’s got some dance moves as well. He may not have netted a goal yet, but when I saw him that night (during the season finale), he had a little shuffle going on.’

Barnes is uncertain what lies ahead for him. The prospect of returning to management is mentioned to a man who once celebrated a Caribbean Cup win with Jamaica but hasn’t taken a managerial role since 2009.

‘I cherish football, so if a suitable opportunity arises, why not? If the FA offered me a volunteering position, I’d consider it! I engage with the academy at Liverpool since youth football holds great significance for me.’

‘In the long run, I’m not quite sure. Maybe you have a position in mind for me!’

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